A sharply divided Supreme Court has rejected a Trump administration push to rebuke a federal judge who imposed a quick deadline to release billions of dollars in foreign aid.
The Supreme Court ruled that the executive branch can’t bring criminal charges against someone for acts that were done as President.
Here’s what that doesn’t stop:
Criminal cases against the former president for non-official acts.
Civil cases against the former president for acts, whether official or non-official.
Criminal charges against anyone else who wasn’t literally the president
Civil cases against the government, its agencies, its officers, or its employees.
The Supreme Court fucked up when it said prosecutors can’t use official acts as evidence relating to unofficial acts, which basically made it impossible to prosecute a whole bunch of types of crimes.
But what it doesn’t do is stop people from suing the government, here and now, for breaking the law, or stop the courts from ordering the government to comply with the law.
And the scope of immunity covers only the President personally. Any other adviser, employee, or officer can still be prosecuted for breaking the law, including following the President’s illegal orders.
Part of the Trump strategy right now is to demoralize the opposition and make us believe that he actually has all the power. He doesn’t, at least not yet. We shouldn’t make it easy for him by assuming that he can break the law with impunity, and instead we should make sure we continue to do everything in our power to hold him and everyone who helps implement his agenda accountable.
The president can Pardon himself and his buddies. Your points mean nothing. The glorious leader is free to do as he likes. That is the world we live in now. Time to wake up.
The courts can and still do order the executive branch to follow the law, and undo unlawful actions, and order them to follow the law into the future. That’s the whole reason why at any given time there are thousands of lawsuits against the government under the Administrative Procedure Act, and the type of lawsuit being brought against Trump’s new policies.
If he ignores court orders, that’s a constitutional crisis, but it also really fucks up his chain of command. Elon Musk can’t fire thousands of people or freeze thousands of contracts, he has to direct the thousands of people who actually control those things to do the paperwork to do that, and those individual civil servants won’t violate court orders.
The lawsuits are important, and people need to not roll over and just accept Trump’s illegal actions.
Pardons don’t protect against civil liability. Example: a pardoned person won’t go to prison for shooting someone in the leg. But the person who got shot can still sue for pain and suffering etc
Civil Liability has done nothing to stop the president from doing anything he wants. Even with judgements against him he says the same things and does the same things. It means nothing other than costing him some money.
This is a misconception that should stop.
The Supreme Court ruled that the executive branch can’t bring criminal charges against someone for acts that were done as President.
Here’s what that doesn’t stop:
The Supreme Court fucked up when it said prosecutors can’t use official acts as evidence relating to unofficial acts, which basically made it impossible to prosecute a whole bunch of types of crimes.
But what it doesn’t do is stop people from suing the government, here and now, for breaking the law, or stop the courts from ordering the government to comply with the law.
And the scope of immunity covers only the President personally. Any other adviser, employee, or officer can still be prosecuted for breaking the law, including following the President’s illegal orders.
Part of the Trump strategy right now is to demoralize the opposition and make us believe that he actually has all the power. He doesn’t, at least not yet. We shouldn’t make it easy for him by assuming that he can break the law with impunity, and instead we should make sure we continue to do everything in our power to hold him and everyone who helps implement his agenda accountable.
The president can Pardon himself and his buddies. Your points mean nothing. The glorious leader is free to do as he likes. That is the world we live in now. Time to wake up.
You’re still too narrowly focused.
The courts can and still do order the executive branch to follow the law, and undo unlawful actions, and order them to follow the law into the future. That’s the whole reason why at any given time there are thousands of lawsuits against the government under the Administrative Procedure Act, and the type of lawsuit being brought against Trump’s new policies.
If he ignores court orders, that’s a constitutional crisis, but it also really fucks up his chain of command. Elon Musk can’t fire thousands of people or freeze thousands of contracts, he has to direct the thousands of people who actually control those things to do the paperwork to do that, and those individual civil servants won’t violate court orders.
The lawsuits are important, and people need to not roll over and just accept Trump’s illegal actions.
Pardons don’t protect against civil liability. Example: a pardoned person won’t go to prison for shooting someone in the leg. But the person who got shot can still sue for pain and suffering etc
Civil Liability has done nothing to stop the president from doing anything he wants. Even with judgements against him he says the same things and does the same things. It means nothing other than costing him some money.