Cowbee [he/they]

Depends on the actions. I’m a communist, my goals are communism and international working class liberation.

Tankie is just a pejorative for those who support socialist states, as I have said elsewhere. Do you actually disagree with anything I have said on the basis of fact, or are you just jumping to a pejorative to dodge having to respond? Honest question.

I don’t view the world in terms of “right” and “wrong,” because that’s a moralistic view that clouds our judgement. I view it in terms of class interest, and take the side of the international working class. The conflict is between western imperialists with the Ukrainian capitalist class against Russian nationalists, with the Ukrainian working class being the biggest victim. What’s best is a swift peaceful resolution.

Reactionary meaning socially and fiscally regressive. The imperialist countries encircling Russia are also reactionary, though, so the source of conflict is imperialist encirclement vs. Russian nationalism resisting that encroachment.

China is socialist because social ownership is the principal aspect of the economy, and the working classes control the state. It has nothing to do with the name of China, and everything to do with how their society is actually structured, same with the DPRK’s form of consensus-based democracy. I don’t know why you are pretending I made the claim that China is socialist because they said so, I have never made that claim in my life.

The reason for the firewall is to protect developing Chinese internet infrastructure from competition with more developed western alternatives like Facebook. It’s the same reason the US bans Chinese EVs to protect its own auto industry. Thanks to the firewall, China has a much more mature internet than they would have otherwise. This is standard protectionism.

As for the June 4th incident, it wasn’t at all peaceful. Rioters around Beijing began lynching unarmed members of the PLA, which prompted state intervention. As for Hong Kong, it was more peaceful than June 4th, but also was countered more peacefully. In both cases, capitalists opposed the socialist system and sparked unrest.

I am specifically referring to imperialist countries encircling Russia, propagandizing against it, provoking it, and portraying it as a country of mindless barbarians (as you are doing here). The Russian empire ended when the Soviets freed the Tsar’s colonies, at which point Ukraine was and has been free. The modern conflict between Ukraine and Russia is not because Russians are just a warmongering people like you claim, but instead a result of continued encirclement and hostile forces encroaching closer and closer to Moscow over the last few decades.

Tankies do not “praise Putin,” they consider Putin to be a reactionary nationalist. Tankies don’t think Putin is some Hitler-level monster trying to take over all of Europe, though, so whenever imperialist countries warmonger with respect to Russia, tankies generally push back on the propaganda.

Tankies do praise China, because China is socialist. Socialists tend to like socialism in practice.

Tankie is just a pejorative for those that support existing socialist states.

Oh, nice! I don’t run an instance, but efficiency upgrades are always cool and useful!

Very cool! Made a test account, might play around with it.

I’m not misunderstanding you, I simply disagree with you and your frame of analysis. Not everyone you speak to that disagrees is misunderstanding you, same with me.

You have a very idealist frame of analysis. Capitalism’s persistence is not due to ideas, but material conditions. The compulsion for socialism isn’t something won over because some people have socialist ideas, but because capitalism necessarily paves the way for socialism and creates its own demise.

Plus, the PRC is the largest economy in BRICS, and is a socialist country. Even if your frame of analysis requiring BRICS to have large socialist elements to supplant capitalism was correct, it’s already correct, China eclipses every other economy in BRICS.

All very fair points, comrade. Ultimately, even if we can see the US on a downward spiral and countries like the PRC on the rise, we can’t know for sure how this will pan out. All the more reason to get organized, rather than wait and see.

This is a very myopic, eurocentric point of view. Capitalism in the global north is sustained by imperialism. The global south, and its suffering, is what keeps prices artificially low in the global north. This system is crumbling, and disparity is rising faster than ever in the global north as a consequence. Countries like Burkina Faso are kicking out occupiers like France, and BRICS is gaining as the west is falling in relevance.

Further, the UK did not go socialist, unless I’m misreading your meaning. Socialism, as it exists in the real world, can be found in countries like the PRC, Cuba, and former USSR. I’m not talking about welfare.

Further, the US is seeing normalization of socialism. Mamdani may be a socdem, but has implied a far more socialist line, ie collectivizing production. The assassination of the United Healthcare CEO is being met with united support among the working class, and parties like the Party for Socialism and Liberation are reporting record member growth.

Opinions aren’t what drive social change, material conditions evolving and changing do. The material conditions of capitalism in the west are declining, and socialism is gaining. The global south is increasingly throwing off the shackles of imperialism. If you take a very myopic, eurocentric view, then it can be easy to only see companies getting larger and larger and disparity rising, but if you zoom out this very system is pushing the profit motive and capitalism with it to the brink.

The capitalists have always had control of governments within capitalism. States are not distinct from the ruling class, but an extension. What we are seeing is not a shift from capitalism to neofeudalism, but the consequences of the dying stages of capitalism before socialism. Capitalism has decayed and is dying due to monopolization and centralization of capital, and due to imperialism, but these same conditions prep capitalism for revolution and collective ownership and planning, into socialism.

The US doesn’t have the industrial capacity, there’s a difference between currency and the actual physical industrialization needed to maintain a proxy war.

The lead developers of Lemmy are communists. This is not “dead wrong.” Further, the communist instances are older than most of the right-wing instances. You’re free to complain about communists all you want, there are instances where that’s the norm, but there are instances where the opposite is the norm, like the one you’re visiting right now.

You’re on a platform made by communists, there are a lot of us here. Deliberately breaking the rules does get your comments removed.

Heartwarming.

Very cool.

Lemmy.ml is more broadly federated than sh.itjust.works, its users get exposed to more broad viewpoints and a more complete vision of the broader Lemmy. Its admins and a large portion of moderators and users may be Marxists, but it’s less of an echo chamber than instances that align with western consensus and ban dissent against that consensus.

Most users on Lemmy.ml can’t escape the liberal viewpoint even if they tried as hard as they could, while most users on the more liberal instances can comfortably live their lives without ever engaging with Marxism.