Well I dimly remember after the 30 year war (? It was a long time ago I learned about this, could have been the restoration after the Napoleonic wars) the church gave up vast swathes of Land in exchange for a set amount of dividends from the state.

But given that was after a drawn out tumultuous war, so I see your point.

Wouldn’t the shareholders, who profit far more off any company than any CEO be a better target? Of taxation and eventual deposition (taxing them out of existence), of course, I do not care about violence.

Well, a legalized coca plant will give you coca leaves. Chew them and you get the effect of a good toothbrush and a morning coffee. Combined.

Cocaine on the other hand… I’m not so sure. But I’m also more in the camp of forbidding alcohol, so…

yeah, that is going really well /s – same in Germany - when the established parties started integrating fascist rhetoric/actions into theirs, the fascist party went from 10 to 20 percent in elections.

You cannot sway the dumb voters who fall for fascist rhetoric, by going “yes, the fascists are right, but …” because if the fascists are right, why change? Anything after “but” will be discarded by voters. All they heard was you agreeing with them.

Instead say “The fascists are wrong, because …” and then list one of the many, many reasons, ideally you also list ones applicable to the situation at hand.

Thx for the info. Current thinking is concurrent over / undervoltage in 2 separate power plants/points of failure, if I’m reading correctly.

While my bets are on sabotage, happenstance is almost as likely. Takes off tinfoil hat