Thanks 😘

Lol, got reported for “bad-faith post”, that’s a new one, usually it’s Russian propaganda or disinformation, a real pity that’s not the case here… :(

@moe93@lemmy.ml feel free to clarify why is it bad faith? :)
I posted news totally debunking the claim of those fucking tankies about Zelensky being a dictator, isn’t it a good thing? I am on the good side now, fighting Russian disinformation campaign, in the name of the free world!

The best news in the last few months. Trump <3

Exactly! It’s so ridiculous that it’s funny. Literally everything he said is so easily debunked, and yet some liberals are not able to do even that.

You, I, journalists, etc. can still come and go.

No, I can’t. I am a “man of military age”. So if I come back to Ukraine I will be prisoner there, along with millions of people there.

I usually post “Russian propaganda”, but today Ukrainian propaganda got so fucking ridiculous that I want to post it, I hope you don’t mind :)

Ukraine DOES NOT have open borders, I don’t think even the most liberal sources will deny that, . But here are several links (first articles from the search results) just in case:
https://www.dw.com/en/how-ukrainian-men-try-to-get-around-the-ban-to-leave-the-country/a-62529639
https://www.dw.com/en/how-ukrainian-men-try-to-get-around-the-ban-to-leave-the-country/a-62529639

Ukraine DOES NOT have " competitive political space", Zelensky banned opposing political parties. Again even liberal medias do not deny that, they merely justify it “bbbbut those are the bad ones!”.
https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2022/3/21/why-did-ukraine-suspend-11-pro-russia-parties
https://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-law-bans-pro-russia-parties-zelenskiy-signs/31849737.html

Ukraine DOES NOT have “competitive information space”, Zelensky tries his best to silence any opposition.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/18/world/europe/ukraine-press-freedom.html
https://thehill.com/homenews/3795160-zelensky-signs-controversial-law-expanding-government-power-to-regulate-media/

And don’t get me started on the elections… Which are of course totally unnecessary because Zelensky is not a dictator and everybody supports him anyway…

You didn’t answer my question.

I have a theoretical question, just to better understand your logic, if you don’t mind.

If I get into power - I will make it legal to hunt down and murder liberals (that’s basically what liberals support happening under Zelensky’s regime to me, so I think it’s absolutely fair). Obviously it wouldn’t be considered murder under my new law (like you don’t consider kidnapping a kidnapping), but there would a term for it, like “making word a better place” (a la “arresting draft dodgers”) or something like this.

Now, someone “makes world a better place” to your friends/family/etc. (we assume they are liberals). Will you say that what happened was “world was made a better place”, or that those people were murdered?

If your answer is not “the world was made a better place” - why? How is this situation different from the kidnapping not being kidnapping because there is a law that says it’s not?

he should just give everything to the Russian oligarchy, right?

He should not confine, terrorize and kidnap innocent people.

no one believes you

But I didn’t say anything that needs believing, all of that are extremely well documented facts.

His commitment to his people

Commitment to… Continuing treating country as a prison and people as slaves who can be kidnapped off the streets and then be dent to death as a cannon fodder? I hope you will one day have a dictator with similar commitment to you.

Who is your post about?

We win so much that our glorious leaderahip just can’t stop bragging about it every month

Well, I am obviously not expecting to change a mind of someone from the sopuli instance (the top post there right now is “Ukraine’s Top Military Leadership: We Are Starting to Win, Russia Is Starting to Lose” 🙃).

But pointing out propaganda is better than doing nothing.

The context for the first link - the parliament actually FAILED to vote for it the first time (that’s why the second attempt was required). https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2025/02/24/7499829/ imagine banning opposing political parties, and still failing to secure a vote “confirming” your legitimacy. Yep, that’s how bad it is.

As for the second link (in case there are people who unironically believe this) - people are literally kidnapped from the streets, packed into vans and sent to the meatgrinder. Remember hearing about oppressive regimes where you are going to jail for criticizing the government? Ukraine is a democratic country, so here you are not going to jail, you are going to be just killed. I don’t know who are the 43% in this article brave enough to say they don’t support Zelensky.

“A dictator disproves the fact of him being a dictator by saying he is not”.

Wow, that’s pure genius right here.

You are agreeing with one of the biggest pieces of shit on the planet

Well, if Hitler (or whoever you consider the worst human to have ever lived) would say that the water is wet I’d agree with him on that.
I don’t think that makes me a bad person whatsoever, but you do you

I’m kinda starting to wonder, with all the “democracy is only when the correct candidate wins” and “elections are undemocratic, everybody supports the totally-not-dictator anyway”, what exactly is the difference between western definition of a democracy and dictatorship?..

Thank you, it’s really heartwarming to hear something nice instead of… the usual Lemmy stuff! ❤

Would you like to describe those concerns?

Well, sure! I am very concerned indeed that in the “aggressor country” that according to the news is about to go bankrupt (for the last 3 years…), people are volunteering to join the army because of monetary incentives, but Zelensky together with the “democratic” west decided that me and other Ukrainians are his personal slaves who can be kidnapped off the streets and sent to the meatgrinder just like this. All of that while receiving hundreds of billions of dollars, with at least a hundred just missing… Very concenening indeed.

Despite how concerning this is, I don’t see how is this relevant here? I hope you were not trying to justify terrorizing people with “well, you see in that other place they are doing bad things as well, so why shouldn’t we do that”?

I didn’t say I support it.

Well, thank you for that at least…

Who is at fault? The attacking nation. Russia. This is the enemy. They are at fault.

Russia is in no way at fault for Zelensky’s actions. It was his and his alone choice to trap people in a country with active hostilities (so that he both has more cannon fodder to expense and more casualties to pin on Russia). It was his and his alone choice to kidnap people off the streets and send them to their deaths. The enemy for the people being kidnapped and sent to their deaths is Zelensky’s regime and others who support that regime. Russia does a lot of terrible things, but all of what I originally commented is solely on Zelensky and those who support him. Putin is not trying to get me, my friends, my family and everyone I know killed, Zelensky does.

it would be worse if the Russian army advances and murders and tortures civilians in the process like they have done already.

Like they did in Crimea, Melitopol, Donetsk, Lugansk, etc. right (and like Ukrainian force did NOT do in Kursk)? Or are people on those lands still doing [relatively] okay and can move to Ukraine controlled territories at any moment, while those who are on Ukraine controlled territories are kidnapped off the streets and cannot leave? Should [for a Ukrainian] be tortured by Ukrainians be somehow more preferable than being tortured by a Russian? (Ukrainian parliament members said that there are many more cases like this, it’s just the only one that managed to gain attention)