8gb of vram in 2026 is not what a “good product” would have. It also costs more than a similar diy pc, performs worse and can’t be upgraded. This thing is doa.

What they “pumped” into linux (proton, actually) is a general investment for the future, not something that should be taken into account when discussing the Steam Deck hardware cost, specifically.

You’re also assuming that they hadn’t already purchased the steam deck components at a lower cost, before everything started to get more expensive. Once that inventory ran out, they increased the prices.

Basically you’re making up a relatively plausible but nevertheless imaginary scenario with 0 proof/sources.

That has nothing to do with my point. I’m saying that, given the current price (and age), of the steam deck, I doubt that they’re losing money on it.

They increased the price of the steam deck quite a bit. Doubt they’re not making money off of it.

You think you really understand how controllers/drivers work. Unfortunately, you do not.

If the controller can work through steam then it can work through a stripped down version of steam that does not have the store, library, community, etc features. That’s what I’m asking. A program that can work as a compatibility layer and does not require you to log in to anything or give your data to valve in any way.

Yes, steam does give you a workaround. A workaround that involves giving them user data.

I specifically said “standalone driver”. That does not equate to xinput support. You still have not understood what I said.

What an absolutely absurd non-argument. How can someone with no access to their codebase extract the bit of steam that makes the controller work? I’m not going to spend $100 on a controller amd then do Valve’s work for them.

Valve made the controller and they did add support for their controller inside steam. Just extract the controller compatibility layer and make it standalone. Don’t force people to use steam. It’s not a wild thing to ask. I also never said they should use xinput.

Stop defending rich corporations, it’s lame.

Why would using a 3rd party program be acceptable? I mean, how can someone outside Valve make that but Valve themselves cannot? It’s pretty ridiculous.

Firstly, xinput support would still be useful. Reduced functionality >> no functionality. Secondly, it a standalone druver would only need to remove the steam itself and keep what makes the controller work. It would not require any extra work from any game dev. Stop making excuses for rich corporations providing half-baked support. It’s kinda pathetic.

Standalone driver when? I’m waiting, Valve.

It still comes with a case, doesn’t it?

A) you’re ignoring the tdp thing and B) you’re proposing a hypothetical scenario for which you can’t provide any actual numbers. This thread is literally pointless. I’m out.

I agree that the comparison makes no sense. However, your TDP comparison also makes no sense. Firstly, TDP is not power consumption. It’s basically an arbitrary number and all chip manufacturers have a different equation for it. Secondly, you can’t compare the TDP of x86 and ARM. The latter is way more efficient.

So this option which makes it thicker, larger and has awful ergonomics is better? Ok…

“Without needing a case”? Dude, the device literally comes with a great case. You can even detach the internal part to get a slim version of it. Is using a zipper really that hard?

The post (and replies) are about the VR headset (steam frame), not the gabecube.

With a battery*

That kinda makes it not very portable. However, it’s true that you can get short high capacity drives. They’re just a bit harder to find.