• galanthus@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    5 hours ago

    But is this not irrelevant? It seems to me that you believe that North Ossetia should be independent, despite the fact that Ossetians do not want independence from Russia, and South Ossetia should not be independent, despite the fact that South Ossetians would rather not be a part of Georgia.

    • NOT_RICK@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      edit-2
      5 hours ago

      I believe in self determination, so I don’t have a problem with any group deciding they want to be Russian in a free and fair election. That said, I find that Russia’s involvement in the Caucuses has been wholly self serving.

      • galanthus@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        5 hours ago

        Well, I believe that without Russia, Russian Caucasus will be a worse place overall, and will also have a few wars.

        South Ossetia and Abkhazia are also worse off than they would be had they remained in Georgia.

        It seems to me that this sort of nationalism is counterproductive.

        • NOT_RICK@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          5 hours ago

          There are already wars in the Russian caucuses.

          I cannot prove or disprove a negative, so I’m not going to touch your second point.

          Georgian nationalism was so fervent at the fall of the USSR because of Russian oppression. They haven’t done anything to clean up the mess they created because frozen conflict on their borders is beneficial to Russia.

          • galanthus@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            5 hours ago

            There are no wars now.

            The wars happened when the central government was too weak to deal with them, which supports my point somewhat.